Dead by Daylight

[BiteLikeASnake]

 

Пусть нахуй идут. Ни копеечки не потрачу до выделенных серверов

С другой стороны мы все знаем, что под юбкой все будет видно

энивей никого секаснее катюхи нет в игрухе и скинами это не исправить

 

другой вопрос, что я качал как дебил до III-50 + анлок всех перков нею, потратив на это часов 200, а разрабы просто взяли и выпустили идеальную катюху и теперь все по новой pepehands

Люди так то дрочат на всех сурвов 3-50.

[Тигрёнок]

 

 

Пусть нахуй идут. Ни копеечки не потрачу до выделенных серверов

С другой стороны мы все знаем, что под юбкой все будет видно

энивей никого секаснее катюхи нет в игрухе и скинами это не исправить

 

другой вопрос, что я качал как дебил до III-50 + анлок всех перков нею, потратив на это часов 200, а разрабы просто взяли и выпустили идеальную катюху и теперь все по новой pepehands

Люди так то дрочат на всех сурвов 3-50.

 

 

так в этом смысла нет и занимает овердохрена времени 

 

ты же сам понимаешь 

 

сюрв - это просто скин, не более, по большому счету. ну скин + озвучка 

 

у манов там все по другому, но хз 3-50 дрочить на всех сюрвов эт надо ну совсем отбитым быть

[ward]

игра стала интересной  ? или такой же шлак как пару лет назад ?

[Тигрёнок]

игра стала интересной  ? или такой же шлак как пару лет назад ?

 

ну добавили кучу новых маньяков, понерфили кучу перков + добавили кучу новых

добавили несколько карт 

улучшили оптимизацию, причем значительно 

фиксанули большинство багов 

 

 

но в целом, если тебе геймплей тогда не заходил, то сейчас ниче не изменилось в этом плане 

[BiteLikeASnake]

Я не дрочу, но потихоньку прокачивал разных, когда играл сурвами. Просто не интересно было фул прокачанным играть сурвом, брал других. А первым вкачал на 3-50 Девида, чтобы вливать в него все лишние БП, так как очень жадный и не сливаю персонажу престиж, пока все подношения на + очки не всру.

[Тигрёнок]

ахахха обожаю начало сезона 

 

чисто чел на мане пошел поиграть на 19м ранге, а там 4 рандома, которые не в пати, но все фулл прокачанные и с фонариками, 2 из которых максимальные     

 

 

 

[BiteLikeASnake]

Слава богу, что фонарики сейчас не инста слепят. А то помню было время, гонишься за сурвом - он поворачивается, пиу на микросекунду в лицо, и ты стоишь слепой, теряешь его.

[Dark[Ol(U23)leneri]]

Зато с другой стороны бывает по 4 рандома, которые только купили игру и фул прокачанный гандон с барбекью и мори

[Kotoface]

жалко нет голосовой связи между выжившими

[Dark[Ol(U23)leneri]]

И не будет, ебаные разрабы говножуи

[BiteLikeASnake]

жалко нет голосовой связи между выжившими

Хочешь слушать писклявых школьников, как в Пятнице?

[Dark[Ol(U23)leneri]]

Поебать на школьников. Только дауны вводят рейтинги, делают турниры, но не вводят голосовой чат

[Kotoface]

Поебать на школьников. Только дауны вводят рейтинги, делают турниры, но не вводят голосовой чат

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[Dark[Ol(U23)leneri]]

Вчера была ахуенная тема на реддите про моды. Там столько всего челик напредлагал, чего разрабы за годы не сделают, но они ещё особенные. Тупо закрыли api и не дают модить

[BiteLikeASnake]

Поебать на школьников. Только дауны вводят рейтинги, делают турниры, но не вводят голосовой чат

турниры от разработчиков проходят редко, а так в каждом турике разрешен голосовой чат. Это нифига не интересно, когда 1 чел с глазом и вся тима знает, что маньяк делает. икакого саспенса, лучше бы турниры без войсчата были.

Вчера была ахуенная тема на реддите про моды. Там столько всего челик напредлагал, чего разрабы за годы не сделают, но они ещё особенные. Тупо закрыли api и не дают модить

тему в студию, хотя бы ключевые тезисы.
Изменено 17 июля 2018 пользователем BiteLikeASnake

[Dark[Ol(U23)leneri]]

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So....before we get started:

 

Modders do not play in ranked matches, it's always KYF (as the mods don't work via the regular game). Also...rank is pointless.

Since it's KYF, all perks and add ons, offerings are unlocked.

No, it's not a 'download this and click this' modding community.

Don't want to fully understand the point of this post, want the 'highlight reel' ...scroll to the bottom for what is currently out there.

 

Smart companies, enable their passionate patrons. You'll see bE encourage Cosplay, art work, video's music, 'highlight-reels'....but that's just free advertisement for them. MANY players have noticed, or learned that DBD is stagnant in it's creativity. As is Friday the 13th.

 

So, what should bE do, to expand and extend their IP's revenue. Let us take a look at 2 GLARING examples of decade old decisions that have raked in MILLIONS (if not a Billion or two).

 

HISTORY LESSON:

 

Microsoft

 

Once upon a time, Operating systems....were verry varried. There was no 'household name'. There was a time when "Windows" was not ubiquitous with "PC". This was the PRE-DOOM age. So here is what happened. Microsoft had an OS they wanted to sell. They had a large chunk of the market, but as a smart company does, they wanted to reach more. THEN came along id Software...a a little game you may have heard of called DOOM (1993). See...but Microsoft didn't own id Software, or Doom. BUT Microsoft saw how popular DOOM was. In fact, DOOM was on more computers than ANY OTHER OPERATING SYSTEM OF THE TIME. Microsoft saw this as a golden ticket...and here is where this ties into the post title.

 

A little no one at the time, that has become a lord and savior unable to count to 3, was working on a little project. Porting DOOM...to windows 95. Long story short...he succeeded...and in that Microsoft succeeded, and id Software succeeded. Moral of this story: The IP owner enabled and encouraged the 'modification' of their game, new ideas became multi-million dollar IP's.

 

id Software

 

After the blow out success of 1993's DOOM, id Software set the PC gaming world ablze with another game....Quake (1996). This game, and it's later sequel birthed what is still considered today, to be one of the greatest, if not the greatest, online-multiplayer FPS.

 

But the point of this post is to note that from Quake multiplayer came a mod called "Team Fortress"...a multi-class multiplayer FPS. And I'm sure you all know how successful Team Fortress 2 has become. The thing to note here, id Software didn't SHUT DOWN or flat out REFUSE those that wanted to change Quake's coding/engine for their game ideas.

 

Moral of the story: The IP owner enabled and encouraged the 'modification' of their game, new ideas became multi-million dollar IP's.

 

(Sub/side note: When there was only Wolfenstein 3D, there were still mods made by the public. I still own one of the ORIGINAL MODS for Wolfenstine 3D on floppy disc....it's Beavis and Butthead Wolvenstein 3D...)

 

Valve

 

Now led by former Microsoft employee Gabe Newell, Valve took the Team Fortress IP into a continued world, and made a new game of their own. Half-Life...and from this, as was the trend set before, a sucessfull community idea came to exist.

 

It's name, was Counter Strike. Again, a mod that started off by a handful of people, took off, and then was embraced by the IP owner. Today, you'll still see Counter Strike is STILL in the top 10 of Twich streams, with WELL over 10k viewers at near any moment of the day. (Sure it's a later version) but the game core is still the same since 2000. Nearly 18 years later, this is still a global leader in Multiplayer FPS's.

 

Moral of the story: The IP owner enabled and encouraged the 'modification' of their game, new ideas became multi-million dollar IP's.

 

Where bE Stands Currently With DBD

 

bE is a beast of their own making, and DBD is as clear an illustration as anyone needs. Ignoring every mechanic in game, lets look at the user customize ability...let that speak for itself.

 

No set resolution selection (just a slider bar)

No gamma adjustments

No Anti Aliasing adjustments

No Shading adjustments

No Depth of field adjustments

No Bloom adjustments

No individual audio adjustments

No Direct X options

No HUD options

 

The list goes on an on and on. NOW, this normally isn't a large issue for a starter game, and indi game. BUT, the issue here is that bE has taken the stand of, "The lack of options is solely because they're imperative to the core game play mechanics."

 

While 'true' in their own right, this is, laughably, a poor excuse for not putting in the leg work. See, even DOOM, in 1993 had more visual adjustments than DBD has currently.

 

"But wait...why are you pointing out their choice in 'customizeability'?"

To which I answer, "To highlight, how close minded bE is to change...no matter how small.

 

See...right now, there is a DBD modding community. You'll find them poking around the same forums as those that make EAC bypasses and ESP auto aiming for the same game. Sure, there are malicious individuals that wish harm on the player base, but the OVER WHELMING MAJORITY of the creators on said site, are there to create and invent. More often than not, their efforts are open to be used by bE to improve their game. Sadly bE, continues to ignore, on a public scale, any notice of said community.

 

"So...what are the actual DBD mods out there right now?"

 

Here are the mods that I can personally testify have been working on and off through the updates (short description in parentheses):

 

Different Killer Models (Favorite Example: any killer to be rendered as a large 3-D Russet potato...for those of us who admit to being bad as killer)

Interactive Windows (Every window can be closed and opened by both killer and survivor. The visual is such that it's not GLARINGLY OBVIOUS, until you're remotely close.)

T-Bag Injury (Excessive Crouching = Injury, slowness, or other effect(s))

New Items and Add-ons ('Night Vision' - See survivors/killer as used like a map / MANY tweaks to range/speed/efficiency/effects)

New Killer Add-on abilities (Claw Hammer - killers can disable Pallet, looks 'normal' to survivors / Suspenders - killers can 'relocate' generators...painfully slowly / Meat Hook - Re-hook a used Hook / Nails - disable windows)

New Survivor Add-on abilities (Pitch fork - roll hay bales to where you want / Hammer - permanently open windows / spinach - relocate pallet / brick - break lights and make area darker/ etc.)

Double Stack Add-Ons (Super efficient tool box? Super fast saw? YOU CAN DO IT!)

New Offerings (Clown Shows - Attach Squeaky Shoes to Killer/Survivor....I haven't laughed harder than having a Squeaking Myers / Rudolf Nose - Obsession/killer wears a BRIGHT red nose / Change Killer or Survivor sounds - no more scream...just NOOT-NOOT! / many other 'joke' offerings )

NEW MAPS (Subway, Wolfenstien 3D maps, Mall, Grave Yard, National Park, College Dormitory, Actual Circus, Skyscraper - small floors, but many, Mansion, Airport Terminal, etc.)

Adjustable Perk Limits (matches with killer having 1-7 perks, survivors having 1-5 perks - this also adjusts the scoring multiplayer. Less perks = more points)

New Mechanics - Gasoline for Generators / Map gets brighter as gens are finished / Fans/pumps can be turned on to make noise / gates that require TWO survivors leave at the same time / generators that require TWO survivors to work on / killer traps (as in traps for killer/slow them down/blind them ) that require TWO survivors to arm

New map styles: EXIT GATES located at the center of the map (like exit is a subway tunnel) / No exit gates, just a shrinking border and a 'run out timer' / Cycling Gates - open for 20-40 seconds, then another one opens randomly / WATER - some survivors swim faster than killers, some killers swim faster than survivors / SENTIENT MAPS - maps that rotate and change as the game progresses (gen is complete, doors lock/unlock / etc. )

New Survivor 'evasion' abilities: - Hide under beds, throw down furniture, throw objects to make noise/notifications elsewhere / crawl / hold breath / Run-slide / scream (make noise notification at any time)

New killer EMOTES - Salutes, beckon, rage scream, pound chest, Point, stomp (Which can break dropped items!)

Mori Generator - The 'safest' generator, as it spawn....far away from the rest, if completed, enables 'Mori ability' on the killer. The generator is clearly marked, and makes a different noise

New Adjustments - Gamma, fx/music/voice separate, set resolution, and all the earlier mentioned bells and whistles

Loading screen trivia - during the loading screen, every player is given a multiple choice question, person who gets it right gets a prise/choses something for the match.

Ability to CHOSE MATCHES BASED ON LOCATION - GAME TYPE/MODIFIERS (Much like CS:GO, or TF2, you can pop onto a server with a series of 'tags' to know what you're getting into.) DBD is still peer to peer, so this move was a no-brainier for the DBD modding community.

 

Those are just SOME of what is out there. And for sure, they make the game 100000000x more enjyoble here 2k hours and 2 years after DBD first hit the ground. Are most of them goofy? You betcha. Are some of them super complex, sure are. (There's one I've read about, haven't tried yet, it's 'turn based map set up' survivors and killer take turns, killer goes first, picks the map, survivor goes, places a gen, or pallet, or hay bale, or wall, or gasoline, killer goes places a gen, on and on and on...sounds really neat)

 

My concern here is that bE is MISSING OUT on what their game could be. Instead, they've opted to take these few idea that they've come up with and make entirely new IP's from them. Death Garden...is DBD with guns. MORE SO, bE's refusal to embrace and encourage the modding community has lead the MANY OTHER Asymmetrical games to come out and innovate.

 

Deceit

White Noise

Hide or Die

Last Year

 

The list is growing. Sure the core game mechanic is the same '1 v many', but bE could be exapnding their DBD IP by giving the green light to controlled modding. (That is...how it's done currently. No rank, and BP are still awarded. They want their 'micro-transactions' more power to em.)

 

Anyways, that's my rambling Sunday Night / Monday Morning consideration. I may get flack form the modding community if this actually goes anywhere, but I'd like to encourage discussion and awareness, instead of hearing the same old, "Man...wish bE would actually start hiring real game developers/programmers."

 

Hope you enjoyed! So...what are your thoughts? Should bE enable and encourage and enable modding of their DBD? Should bE use TF2/ Killing Floor/ Killing Floor 2 / etc. etc. as a model for how players should be able to search for games? Want to tell me/us how 'You can't do any of this because XYZed?' Have at it, I'm sure we'll read a flood of angry console users typing in caps lock with their tiny fingers, "WE CAN"T DO MODS ON [CONSOLE]." -...yep. That's why Minecraft has Java...and Windows 10/Bedrock version. Microsoft knows how to play this game.

[BiteLikeASnake]

Ну, такое себе. Автор в эти моды на пиратке играл? Сомневаюсь, что они балансные. Разрабы 2 года уже игру полируют в плане баланса. Так что будет гореть с них.

Как люди с несколькими разными модами будут искать игру? Онлайн то небольшой, если только с друзьями.

А кулхацкеры с открытым кодом игру в конец испоганят, они и сейчас её ломают, защита то слабая.

[Dark[Ol(U23)leneri]]

Полируют)) Хех, серьезно? Ты считаешь это полировкой?

[BiteLikeASnake]

Полируют)) Хех, серьезно? Ты считаешь это полировкой?

По сравнению с тем, что в самом начале было да. Напоминаю, за 2 года:

Уменьшили количество инфинитов, сделали абуз окон неэффективным, уменьшили спавн паллеток в коробках до одной, отшлифовали кучу имбоперков вроде часов, убрали из игры фейскемп, сделали соединение с интернетом стабильнее, улучшили анимации. И это только часть многого.

А в списке модов читаю блять мод, который заменяет модель мана картохой. Как же мододел полировал его наверное, не устал?

[LichGod]

Пару дней смотрел гримза в этой игре, не совсем понимаю есть ли вообще победа/луз как таковые? По логике ведь должно быть что маньяк победил если всех убил и никто не убежал, но челики по кд ескейпятся то вдвоем-втроем то все сразу... Выходит основная масса игроков тупо пойнты фармит и качает персонажей (катает фо фан можно сказать), а на победу поебать потому что ее как таковой и нету?