Как победить Virtus Pro - by Maruchan Ramen

[lamocomp]

очередная неплохая аналитика от Maruchan Ramen

на тему того, почему виртуса так ебашат, и что с этим делать

не сказать, что он учел все факторы, но тем менее познавательно

 

вот оригинал

 

On the Importance of Innovation

 

No one can deny that Virtus.Pro is the best team in Competitive DotA right now. They’ve won every tournament they’ve participated in since the TFL Playoffs two months ago. Their only losses come against teams they underestimate. In ARS-ART, Jolie, vigoss, Admiration, NS, and sahka, they have a nearly unprecedented amount of DotA skill.

 

DotA seems to come easy for this bunch: they pick heroes that few others would—Shadow Priest, Bounty Hunter, Witch Doctor, Stealth Assassin, Chaos Knight, Crystal Maiden—and win, often with frightening ease (just witness the finals of MYM Nations 1 or games 2 and 3 of their MYM Pride 7 Finals stage match against SK). Often it seems like they’re simply joking around—and yet they still win.

 

Can the Russians be beaten?

 

I believe they can. Virtus.Pro is amazing, better perhaps than even the greatest teams of the past (col, JMC, etc.)—but no team is invulnerable. There is no magic in the vodka that the Russians drink. Individual skill is certainly significant in determining the winner of a DotA match, but it’s hardly the only factor. The question is not if the Russians will be beaten; the question is when, and how.

 

But why, then, have the Russians won the last two MYM Tournaments? Why can no one manage to eliminate them?

 

The problem is convention. A recent GotFrag article, “DotA’s Current Competitive Gameplay,” explored this issue. Teams are falling back on what they know works rather than trying to innovate. They do this because they feel that using what’s proven to work gives them the best chance of victory.

 

But this mindset is wrong. In fact, the opposite is true: innovation is what gives a team the best chance to win. A team that innovates effectively can’t be countered because their opponents know how to counter it yet; this idea was advocated, ironically, by ARS-ART himself in a recent interview (his words were “teams don’t know what to do…so new hero 99% win”).

 

Essentially, to overcome a team of superior talent like VP, teams must do what's called playing outside the current metagame. If you play within this current metagame of constant skirmishes, the result is almost inevitable: you will lose to a team that is better at this current metagame—and Virtus.Pro are the masters of this metagame.

 

Think back, for a moment, to MYM Pride 5 and the height of the trilane era. For those that don’t remember, Team Meet Your Makers seemed absolutely unstoppable. After a disappointing upset loss in MYM Pride 4, MYM won every game up until the Pride 5 final stage.

 

At that time, almost everyone was using the trilane setup with two solos and an initiate-chainer-nuker combo. And pretty much no one was better at it than MYM. Levent’s Lina was going on massive killing sprees every game, Fang’s Sand King was controlling the map, Merlini’s Silencer was death to enemy Queen of Pains and his Zeus dominated trilanes with ease. It wasn’t only that they won, it was how they won: every game was a stomp, even the one against fan favorite hans2.

 

Yet, MYM didn’t win that tournament. They lost once to MaGe (now VP), came back to reach the overall finals, but then lost to Team Team (now SK-Gaming). T_T didn’t play within the contemporary metagame of trilanes and solos; they innovated and played outside the current metagame with two strong dual lanes and a solo lane. They refused to play the game that MYM was best at—and they were victorious.

 

Unless a team plays better than VP within the current metagame—an occurrence that looks less and less likely after VP’s win over SK—something similar must happen during this MYM Pride 7 for a non-Russian team to win. As for how exactly to play outside the current metagame, there are a wide variety of possibilities. After all, there are I have my own ideas, others will have theirs—but no one will know which ones are successful without trying.

 

And until more teams do try, do innovate—until teams stop picking heroes that chase and flee, farm and gank—the same teams will be winning.

 

Maruchan Ramen

 

Перевод будет ближе к вечеру

 

[MXPalich]

имхо хуйня :-\ ВП ебашат по скиллу, а не потому, что пикают героев лучше

[Stranger]

тимплеем ебашат тоже -_-

ну и про нестандартного героя тоже прикольно  ;)

[HungryHobbit]

нужно иметь руки-рельсы^^

[toxa]

чувак размышляет правильно, но не знаю кто это на деле покажет и когда :) Любой команде будет неудобно играть против чего-нибудь необычного, неудобного им. Возможно со временем кто-нить и найдет слабое место у ВП. И жаль, что пуш сейчас никто не играет, в -xl можно и подьебать.

[Han]

"Чуваки, придумайте новую оригинальную страту и выиграйте ей у ВП" - ГЕНИТАЛЬНО!!

[Gadenish]

ГЕНИТАЛЬНО!!"

ХАХАХАхахусуссуус

[End1Ga]

There is no magic in the vodka that the Russians drink.

чел не шарит

[lamocomp]

"Чуваки, придумайте новую оригинальную страту и выиграйте ей у ВП" - ГЕНИТАЛЬНО!!

 

ну вообще да

но чувак оформляет это такими умными словами, что все впечатляюца :D :D :D

 

[FoFka]

^прав ...магия в том что вп всегда  набухаются перед чампом :O

 

пля это было к енду:O

[|_|_|AXTEP]

Я страту придумал! Нуна просто  им руки переломать ;D

[Vpalach]

наверное этот автор написал статью сразу после оубликования интервью смайла)

[TalenT]

лол виртус неконтрятса, иничивонезделать

[B00bLick]

Очевидные вещи в статье, рассказывал целую статью то, что само собой разумеется

[lamocomp]

перевода не будет, на работе пиздец

[Astra]

is no magic in the vodka that the Russians drink.

[Kama]

Вот как переводчик перевел ники ВП:

 

Their only losses come against teams they underestimate. In ARS-ART, Jolie, vigoss, Admiration, NS, and sahka, they have a nearly unprecedented amount of DotA skill.

 

В ИСКУССТВЕ АМЕРИКАНСКОГО РАКЕТНОГО ОБЩЕСТВА, Jolie, vigoss, Восхищении, НЕ УТОЧНЕНО, и sahka, они имеют почти беспрецедентное количество навыка DotA.

 

ЛОЛ

 

Virtus.Pro - Художественные вкусы.Про

[mYjuk]

кто по еврейски заебись шарит сделай перевод пожалуйта. я ни слова не понял

[Stenateksta]

Да,хня это все. Ебашат именно тимплеем(личным скиллом). И вардами(читать НС).

Так что в статье говорится что-то типа. Бля ну победите их уже и бла-бла-бла-бла. Если их кто-то победит и всего западно-европейского дота-коммунити будет праздник))))

[Vasilisk]

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